Preflop 3 Bet In Posotion & Out of Position

[kyxapka]

Preflop 3 Bet In Posotion & Out of Position
Can not find this very usefull stat in PT4.

"3 bet IP vs EP" or "3 bet IP vs MP" or "3 bet OOP vs MP" are also useful

[WhiteRider]

I assume you mean in or out of position relative to the initial raiser?
We have built-in "3bet vs XX 2bet" stats for XX = EP, MP, CO, BTN, SB, BB, and you can display these (or any other) stats for any of the same set of positions, so you could even make a complete grid of them if you like.
There aren't "in position" or "out of position" options since this is much harder to define preflop, but they can certainly be built as custom stats. I will mention these to the devs and if there is enough demand for them we may add them.

[kyxapka]

WhiteRider, i will wait custom stats, because thay are very useful in Holdem Manager. Without taht 2 stats I lose very important part of game. For Example, Opponent have 3 bet from Big Blind 15%(2% 3 bet OOP vs UTG & 14+% OOP vs Button), so you can not know make opponent a lot of 3 bet against all positions, or he just make a lot of resteals, but have standart 3 bet range in diffrent situations. So, 3 bet IP & 3bet OOP are MUST HAVE stats for every grinder in HUD.

P.S.: sorry for my English& my persistence.
P.P.S: i like PT4 hud, but some stats like these two are too important for me.

[WhiteRider]

Those stats can be built as custom stats now, if you're interested? I don't have time to build them just now, but if you're interested we can show you how to build them. I expect these may be added as built-in stats, but I can't say for sure (or when).

[Erlebnis]

WhiteRider, i will wait custom stats, because thay are very useful in Holdem Manager. Without taht 2 stats I lose very important part of game. For Example, Opponent have 3 bet from Big Blind 15%(2% 3 bet OOP vs UTG & 14+% OOP vs Button), so you can not know make opponent a lot of 3 bet against all positions, or he just make a lot of resteals, but have standart 3 bet range in diffrent situations. So, 3 bet IP & 3bet OOP are MUST HAVE stats for every grinder in HUD.

P.S.: sorry for my English& my persistence.
P.P.S: i like PT4 hud, but some stats like these two are too important for me.

I found that by combining the 3bets BY position and VS position one can get a very good idea. The high BB 3bet example is good, but then you can just check if he has a lot of 3bets vs SB or vs BTN/CO.

[random]

kyxapka instead of OOP/IP you can look at 3bet from and vs specific position which is more accurate than just IP/OOP. Easiest way to see all these stats is to make a table in popup, like here https://www.pokertracker.com/forums/vie ... 59&t=37243

Or if you dont want to see all of them just add what you want to hud/popup.

There are already stats like Resteal vs LP which is basically 3bet OOP from blinds and some other included.. Just take a look.

Edit:
like someone above just said

[kyxapka]

Thank you.