Fold to ISO shove from BB after SB limp in HU

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Fold to ISO shove from BB after SB limp in HU

Postby TIGANCIC » Fri Feb 14, 2025 5:47 am

Hello!

I want to correctly calculate how often the SB limps and then folds to an isolation shove from the BB in heads-up. I'm using the following query:
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sum(if[
    tourney_hand_player_statistics.position = 9 
    AND tourney_hand_summary.cnt_players = 2 
    AND (tourney_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_raise_facing + tourney_hand_player_statistics.amt_blind) >= tourney_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_effective_stack
    AND lookup_actions_p.action LIKE 'CF'
, 1, 0])

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sum(if[
    tourney_hand_player_statistics.position = 9 
    AND tourney_hand_summary.cnt_players = 2 
    AND (tourney_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_raise_facing + tourney_hand_player_statistics.amt_blind) >= tourney_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_effective_stack
    AND lookup_actions_p.action LIKE 'C%'
, 1, 0])
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Re: Fold to ISO shove from BB after SB limp in HU

Postby Flag_Hippo » Fri Feb 14, 2025 7:08 am

I'd recommend using the following in the second expression which means that the player had to have taken a second preflop action otherwise you could potentially have a hand counted where the SB limps all-in:

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lookup_actions_p.action LIKE 'C_%'
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Re: Fold to ISO shove from BB after SB limp in HU

Postby TIGANCIC » Sat Feb 15, 2025 12:31 pm

Why isn't this statistic working? Could there be an issue with the code?

Is it possible that something is wrong with this expression?
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AND (tourney_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_raise_facing + tourney_hand_player_statistics.amt_blind)
>= tourney_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_effective_stack
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Re: Fold to ISO shove from BB after SB limp in HU

Postby Flag_Hippo » Sat Feb 15, 2025 2:24 pm

TIGANCIC wrote:Why isn't this statistic working? Could there be an issue with the code?

Is it possible that something is wrong with this expression?
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AND (tourney_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_raise_facing + tourney_hand_player_statistics.amt_blind)
>= tourney_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_effective_stack

Ah yes there is an issue I didn't initially spot. tourney_hand_player_statistics.amt_blind is the amount the player posted so in this case it will be 0.5 BB for the SB however after they limp that formula is not going to account correctly for the amount they need to call since at that point they have now invested 1BB:

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AND (tourney_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_raise_facing + (2 * tourney_hand_player_statistics.amt_blind))
>= tourney_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_effective_stack
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Re: Fold to ISO shove from BB after SB limp in HU

Postby TIGANCIC » Tue Feb 18, 2025 7:28 pm

And if I want to calculate a fold not to an isolate shove, but to a regular isolate?

That is, a fold to an isolate raise from BB. Would the following statistic work?

The problem is that I don't know what values to use in the BETWEEN ... AND ... range.

The isolate raise size should be between 2 BB and 4 BB.
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sum(if[
    tourney_hand_player_statistics.position = 9
    AND tourney_hand_summary.cnt_players = 2
    AND (tourney_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_raise_facing + (2 * tourney_hand_player_statistics.amt_blind)) /   tourney_blinds.amt_bb between 2 and 4
    AND lookup_actions_p.action LIKE 'CF'
, 1, 0])

Code: Select all
sum(if[
    tourney_hand_player_statistics.position = 9
    AND tourney_hand_summary.cnt_players = 2
    AND (tourney_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_raise_facing + (2 * tourney_hand_player_statistics.amt_blind)) /   tourney_blinds.amt_bb between 2 and 4
    AND lookup_actions_p.action LIKE 'C_%'
, 1, 0])
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Re: Fold to ISO shove from BB after SB limp in HU

Postby Flag_Hippo » Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:13 am

That's fine. If you want to check some hands you can test your expressions using one of the methods described in this thread.
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